First time I’ve heard about Loschbour Man, was somewhere when I researched ancient DNA (2017/2018). It could have been mix of Eupedia, GEDMATCH, FTDNA and YFULL as a source for me. And finally Sep-08-2019 I visited Luxembourg to meet my cousin 🙂
This article is about my small research the history of Martin Luther and his ancestors/descendants through genetic matches with people related to Luther surname, known as “von Luder”. Article is not claiming anything, and most probably will not bring up some discoveries.
This is my latest article for 2018, and I plan to update it at least during 2018, but for sure till next SNP discovered. Meanwhile, before you go next, here are previous articles in this topic:
- R1a vs. I2a (Jun-2014)
- I-CTS10228 (Jan-2015)
- I-Y4460 (Jun-2017)
- Big Y test results (Jan-2018)
- yfull.com results (Jun-2018)
New SNP – new article. It’s about new branches under Y4460, which appeared in FTDNA system, and later a bit in YFULL.
UPD. Aug-03-2019, I received Big Y-700 update.
Now, let’s dive into details.
This was long road for me to order Big Y test, and mostly it’s because I didn’t know the real benefit of it. Now is the time to analyze results. So far, there are 3 articles about my yDNA research here on LUND-IA-K blog:
Since 2014 till 2017 I was not sure, what Big Y can give me, but now I realized, that main purpose is to find out new SNP, potentially unique only in my Y chromosome (meaning in my yDNA ancestry). And with a hope, by having it done, it should help me to find male relatives (yDNA matches) a bit faster and maybe more precisely.
UPD: Sep-2018, I received great news – another DNA test result from Lithuania, based on FTDNA I2a haplogroup group managers showed similarity with my DNA. And it caused FTDNA to name a new branch I-Y128456.
UPD. Aug-02-2019, I received Big Y-700 update.
UPD: The latest, 2018 article is about Big Y test results analysis, read here.
This is about Y4460 ydna haplogroup which is a sub branch for of CTS10228. It’s time to research deeper to Y chromosome, considering timeframe ~2300 years ago, when new man was born with mutation, which caused Y4460 Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP) in his population genome.
For those who reads this first time, I recommend to read my first article “R1a vs. I2a“. Then more detailed article – I2a1b2a1 aka I-CTS10228, which is about my 2014/2017 research results. Since 2014 year many things happened, many discoveries done, and it’s time to have a look closer to I2a Dinaric YDNA genetics.
My goal of this article is to define details about my belonging to I2a haplogroup clade. Ideally, logical end of this article will be BigY results with newly found terminal SNP, which explains mutated DNA from my father, which defines me as different person – new person in genealogical tree I research since 2003 year.
This post intended to be also always-updated, as soon as new information arrived, but strictly related to Y4460 and downstream branches. That parent article will remain up to date, but only regards that parent level.
Since I started DNA research in scope of my genealogical research, I joined Family Tree DNA service [USA], and this post is dedicated to to Y-DNA testing. I do updates of this blog post, as soon as I receive/discover something new and relevant.
First of all I ordered Y-DNA37 only (Jun-2014). It gave me I-P37 as a main predictable haplogroup (but in red color, which was prediction). Later I ordered Y-DNA-67 (Oct-2014) test for more detailed data (more markers – more accurate data, and more accurate matches research). Then I requested a few SNPs, and here are all my results:
- CTS10228+ (Dec-2014) [Nov-2016: C+, V4023 C+]
- A2512 C- [Nov-2016]
- S17250- (Jul-2014) [Nov-2016: YP204 G-, V3022 G-]
- Z17855- (Apr-2015) [Nov-2016: G-]
- Y3120/Y3116 (Aug-2017)
- Y4460+ (Feb-2015) [Nov-2016: A+]
- SK1241- (Y31845) [May-13-2017: C-, and also SK1242 G-]
- Y3106 (Nov-2016). B57 T+ [Jul-2017, yseq]
- Y91535- / BY37524- => Y101641– [Nov-2018]
- Y128456+, FGC63213+ [Sep-2018], Y128937+, BY182167+, BY51714+ [Nov-2018]
- Y3118- (Aug-2014) [Nov-20116: T-]
- S8201- (Dec-2015) [Nov-2016: T-]
- A6105 C- (Oct-2016),
- A6106 C- (Nov-2016)
- I-Y16810 (Feb-2017 moved as sub-branch to A6105. So 99.9% negative.)
- Y4460+ (Feb-2015) [Nov-2016: A+]
UPD (May-28-2016) – Now, confirmed haplogroup for me is child entry I-Y4460.
UPD: Aug-01-2017, I ordered Big Y, and details will be analyzed in I-Y4460 [ydna]. as soon, as I receive results.
UPD: Jul-24-2018, I ordered Y111 it was cheap upgrade offer. Waiting for all STRs now.
Long story short: I’m I2a1b2a1b (based on positive I-Y4460). Neither FTDNA nor YSEQ have new terminal SNP to continue my research (Aug-2017).
UPD: Aug-20-2018 – NOT ANYMORE 🙂 due to Major update which reorganizes entire haplogroup [i2aproject], which affects names for subclades, so I-P37 now is I2a1a. And CTS-10228 is different.
Now, let’s dive into details 🙂